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# Questions relating to the tricky or  phonic concepts and SSP e.g. q, x & all?


| all or al/l?
|| In SSP there are certain aspects that are 'tricky' or uncomfortable to apply to English. all is one concept that fits into this 'tricky' category. 
* c/al/l or c/all? Both are options, and there will be variation between SSP programs with this concept.
* While c/all, f/all, t/all initially seems like an ideal way to proceed. 
* When students progress a little further in their learning they encounter words such as w/al/k, t/al/k and then a little later they encounter words such as al/so, al/w/ay/s etc .
* Looking at literacy overtime and aiming to apply a system that will work not only in the initial years of learning but into subsequent years, PLD typically has opted with this contentious issue for al/l  (below)... but either way will work.
* In [Structured Synthetic Phonics Time Savers](https://pld-literacy.org/product/structured-synthetic-phonics-time-savers-stage-1-6-full-set-2/) resources, you will see a proposed colour coding and thereby the sounding-out strategy to apply. If you do not have this book, follow the [link](https://pld-literacy.org/product/structured-synthetic-phonics-time-savers-stage-1-2/) and select PREVIEW BOOK and view the proposed sounding process. 
![](https://storage.crisp.chat/users/helpdesk/website/67ae980d1c7d2000/screenshot-2023-04-26-42558-pm_11c84op.png)
| qu & x
|| Both x and q do not fit easily with SSP. In SSP, a phoneme is represented by a letter, a digraph (e.g. sh, ea, au), trigraph (e.g. igh, tch)  or quadgraph (e.g. ough, aught). 
* With x the letter is linked to two phonemes /K + S/.
* With q the letter is linked to two phonemes /K + W/
* From a junior primary perspectiove, these concepts are the 'tricky' graphemes, in the [Alphabet the Multi Sensory Way](https://pld-literacy.org/product/alphabet-the-multi-sensory-way/), flipbooks you will see the pronunciation of this tricky sound in the top right corner (below).  
![](https://storage.crisp.chat/users/helpdesk/website/67ae980d1c7d2000/screenshot-2023-04-26-42226-pm_qrjuhn.png)



From a middle and upper primary point of view PLD deal;s with q and qu slightly differently.
![From Stage 3 a more complex explanation, as words become more complex](https://storage.crisp.chat/users/helpdesk/website/-/6/7/a/e/67ae980d1c7d2000/image_ewjy8k.png)